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Monday, July 28, 2008

time again

Sorry this blog has long been neglected. One more thought about the absurd nature of human freedom, atemporality and simultaneity. The area that this chiefly bothers me is in terms of it’s ramifications for soteriology. If it is true that God exists in every moment for all eternity, then is it not true that at the moment of creation, those who made their way down the narrow road and successfully joined God in the eschatological reign will simultaneously exist with God in this moment. This is where I appreciate the logical explanatory power of Calvinists. They are consistent on this point, but for all others, aside from OVT, the idea that God is above or outside time implicates not only God’s ontological ability to exists in these differing and competing moments of history, but also finite humans if they are really “with” God in these real moments.

In terms of soteriology this would seem to diminish human freedom in terms of LFW, or freedom defined by the PAP. The successive moments of history might appear or feel free, but if it is true that a being exists in a moment in the eschaton, then it must also be true that the moments of history which worked to solidify their post mortem position must also be fixed/acted up/chosen. Pick your term, but in any case agents do not seem free.

This also raises the question of the truthfulness of the now. If atemporality is a real option then one has to constantly ask where God’s real presence is?